Wednesday, August 31, 2005

Thoughts on Nature

Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Tornadoes, and Fires.

They all happen not much we can do.

We know it coming, everyone get out.
Everyone leaves so we were told.
The waters rise people are dying.
The poor were left to fend for themselves.
Busses covered in 10 feet of water.
Not on the road with the poor.
I guess people die and they die every day.
The officials were safe and the president on another vacation.
So the poor die. And we sit and watch.
their national guard is deployed O wrong side of the globe.
Mr Bush bring them back let them help and grieve
Buy people die and there is nothing we can do,
Or is there?
Send you money and your prayers
But don't forget those right outside your door.


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Monday, August 29, 2005

A little bit of this, a little bit of that

I think I'll use this post to ramble just a bit.

I've been following the whether mess in the south and all I can say is wow. I don't have any other words except I'm sorry you have to go through it.

Life on the nickel is interesting. I am fitting in well with my role here at the Harbor light. I feel like what is being done here is truly furthering God's kingdom.

I ran into an evangelical a couple weeks ago. We was still in primary (under 14 days) I preached my sermon from James 5 about prayer (individual and private) he had the nerve to come up and say "you didn't invite people to be saved that is what church is all about." I just looked at him and said church is about more then saying a short prayer for that matter so is Salvation.

My Salvation has been essentially this over the last few months: If you want true Salvation then work the process attend the step meetings seek God.

But this brings me to my struggles T and I talked last night about my thoughts on Sundays. To be honest Sundays don't really do much for me. The music is good but empty to me. Preaching is preaching I'd rather teach and be interactive more. But I think the biggest issue is that my community is not there. I wonder if I was not an officer would I go to church? I don't know, probable but I would want something that resembled a small AA meeting where people can open up and share their crap and not it goes nowhere else. For me I think that is church. But for most others something about or service works, it helps, its part of their recovery, so I have a duty to help them and provide leadership.

But leading to what, to where, that is the question. I really have no vision for where it will go, there are many reasons why but I just don't see any direction. Maybe that is okay but it drives me nuts because I lead by vision. Hopefully we will develop one soon or I will see something.

On other notes: God's season is coming. NFL is around the corner. Seahawks look good I hope they will kick but and take names.


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Wednesday, August 24, 2005

Pat Robertson

I had to hide previous comments so if you have any thoughts of the hate speach then post it here.



Little Green Footballs blog (lgf (link from Instapundit) coined the phrase "anti-idiotarian bloggers" back in 2002. Pat Robertson was one of the inspirations for "anti-idiotarian bloggers". If it were just a "sons of thunder" moment, or a Peter with sword in hand moment a simple "may the LORD rebuke you" would do. Too bad the mass media often gets to use him to discourage everyone of Christian faith and to blaspheme all believers.

By Blogger glorybound9, at 2:49 PM  

He has issued an apology, after denying that he made the statement in the first place. It is better to deny statements that you make if they are not on film and linked to numerous websites and blogs, not to mention your own show.

I firmly believe that this is what can happen to someone when they are an American first, a Republican second and a Christian third (giving Pat the benefit of doubt). It is very hard to imagine the early church thinking about killing the Caesar or a member of the Senate and Rome in the early days was anything but a Christian state.

Maybe if Evangelicals decentralized what we consider "True Christianity" off of our American political system we could stop thinking about killing a ruler of a different country because he has oil and gas prices are high and he also is an outspoken opponent of the American president. Wishful thinking, I know....

By Blogger Dwight, at 6:33 AM  

Christianity Today has some reaction from evangelicals. This seems to be the most gererous one:

"'I have always held Pat Robertson in the highest esteem, but his remarks today about Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez were at best indiscreet and probably crossed a serious moral and ethical line,' National Clergy Council president Rob Schenck said in a press release. "Reverend Robertson must immediately apologize, retract his statement, and clarify what the Bible and Christianity teaches about the permissibility of taking human life outside of law."

Of great interest, though, is their analysis of Pat Robertson's hypocrisy when a leader supports his own financial interests:

"But it's a mistake to see CBN as Pat Robertson's only source of income. CBN was not, for example, part of Freedom Gold Limited, Robertson's mining operation in Liberia (incorporated in the Cayman Islands with Robertson as president and sole director). Nor was it part of his Creative Energy Co., an oil refinery company. Nor of Robertson's horse-racing interests. Robertson is willing to fight for these interests. He may call for the assassination of Chavez, but he'll brook no criticism of his business partners, even former Liberian president Charles Taylor. "How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down,'" Robertson said after Taylor was indicted for war crimes."

What I like best of all is the apt comparisons to an Imam issuing a fatwa!

By Blogger glorybound9, at 7:07 PM  

Hi, Bill!

Pat Robertson does not speak for all Christians though he may think he does.

I don't see anywhere in the world that Jesus told us to be killing anyone even our enemies. I guess Pat Robertson must not remember that.

His inflammatory words don't help problems much. I understand he may have apologized for the words he spoke, but is he really sorry?

I don't believe he is the spokesperson for Jesus in this latest message and probably has done more harm than good!


Lloyd Michael Fletcher

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Pat Robertson

I'm tempted to not address this because I might sound equally unchristian but here it goes.
See here

Pat Robertson should stop calling himself a Christian broadcaster. Pundit, fundie American, hate spewer, war monger, anti-Christian all work but Christian? NO! Absolutely not!

I got to admit I'm not a fan of most conservative TV Christians I use TBN frequently as examples of bad theology, but this, this war mongering hate filled language is not unchristian it is anti-Christian. Just because he opposes Bush it means that we should assassinate? Then some 60% of Americans should be lined up and shot.

I'm getting more angry as I write so I'm going to stop.

Unless Pat repents and seeks forgiveness I will consider him anti-Christian from here on out.

Monday, August 15, 2005


Not much to say.
I went to Denver last week and learned a lot about Veterans and the social service world. They are fighting on capital hill over 20+ million a year for programs to help homeless vets find work. They just approved 1+ BILLION on a stupid war that will screw up a new batch of vets. That thought process is really messed up.

But other then that the conference was great learning what other people and organizations are doing.

Wednesday we celebrate 2 years together. A great 2 years since we got married. On one level it seems like much longer. I've forgotten what its like to be single in many ways. On another level it seems like it just happened. Two years, where has the time gone? But I wouldn't change anything. I love Tolani with my whole heart.

Anyway, football season starts in a bit.

Go seahawks.

Lets hear it for the Raider Haters!



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Friday, August 05, 2005


Interesting days.
A guy with serious problems impacting his ability to become part of society came in to my office. We talked I hope he listened. A jail sentence hanging over him and he still doesn't get it. Time will tell hopefully the games will start.

I go home tomorrow (Denver that is) for a week conference. Hang out time will be good with Dwight & Rebecca.

I turn 27 on Monday, weeee... BFD

In a week and a half we celebrate 2 years of marriage, a hard but great two years, I wouldn't change it for anything. I will miss Tolani as she will be staying home for this conference.

Other then that all is well. Its hard to believe we've been here on the nickel 4 months. It has been a great 4 months. Training is going good I'm finding my place. I have started teaching a weekly bible study, they seem to enjoy it. I'm looking at the Sermon on the mount from a recovery standpoint. Its great to use my biblical skills for something of value. I hope I help them realize that this book of scriptures relates to them. But there is so much theological baggage. Bull that some have been taught. Hoping helping wanting to disconnected it all. But maybe some of my crap will become baggage as well.

We talked last night about salt and light, and how its written to the group. We must participate if we are to grow at all. They really grasped it. It was a good time. I hope others are like last night. It doesn't look like any bible study I've ever seen so I guess that is a good thing.



Happy Birthday Bill,

Look forward to seeing you this week

By Blogger Dwight, at 10:29 AM  

Happy belated birthday Bill. Say hello to Dwight and Rebecca for me in Denver.

By Blogger Dan (aka Br Bozano), at 5:40 PM  

Your trust in God is a beautiful witness. Thanks.

By Blogger Jim Knaggs, at 12:18 PM  

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