Tuesday, February 28, 2006


My heart has been saddened of late from discussion on Real Live Preacher and Tim's blog. The first deals with homosexuality. I am saddened by some hate speak going on by commenters. It is really hateful. Most however are filled with Love and compassion. So often we get on our high horse about something we are convicted of and proclaim a turn or burn theology that people will turn and run from whatever gospel we are espousing. I guess in the whole discussion, it will only get more heated, we need to love fist. The question will ultimately come up is it a sin? So what? So what if it is, so what if it isn't. Fact is that it should not change the way I treat others. You may disagree but I can not treat people with contempt because of "sin." If
I did I wouldn't have anything to do with anyone. So what's the big deal.

The second thing that has me sad is the crap in Iraq people are dying. We caused it, at least some of it, and worse is this religious nationalism (AKA Patriotism on Crack.) It there here and everywhere. I think that is why church and state should always be separate. I think its why pluralism is good as well. Without a majority we are less likely to see religion and patriotism become crack heads and become totally disfunctional.

Anyway, there is good news too. I hope. Somewhere.



I wonder if this has anything to do with rlp's essay?

"The Southern Baptists of Texas Convention (SBTC) cut ties with a Baytown, Texas, church January 12 over the church's connections to a ministry designed to welcome homosexuals."

I disagree with rlp's exegisis of the scriptures (and he left one reference out), but I also think this is an area evangelicals (including myself) are failing in miserably. On my own blog a commenter said I lacked integrity because I didn't see it as a big deal that Chad Allen-homosexual activist actor-played a leading part in the movie End of the Spear. I'm trying to figure out, if evangelicals can't stand to see a homosexual actor in a Christian film, how are we ever going to face them in life and show them the kindness that leads to repentance? Are homosexuals the only ones who need to repent before they come to church?

By Blogger glorybound9, at 8:27 PM  

Thanks for the link. As with the SBTC well what do you expect from southern baptists and texans. (that was probably un called for but its about the nicest thing I can say.) So I guess accepting people is a bad thing? Does homosexuality make someone less of a person? I guess it does to some. God bless pastor Haney.

By Blogger Bill, at 4:02 PM  

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Friday, February 24, 2006


16 hours in car for 10 hours training and good communication priceless.

Just returned from a trip to Santa Cruz area for some required business training. Most of it was on HR stuff. How to deal with employees and that stuff. I found it great training. I was able to see session mates and have some good conversation with Ted Lowcock. He is a guy I really respect. I am happy he was at the training college. I guess I just enjoyed relating to officers facing similar issues.

Blessings to you all.


Wow! I think I could drive the length of GB in that time!! Never again will I compalin at driving an hour and half to get to Sunbury!!

By Blogger Gordon, at 3:21 PM  

My wife and I have our 5 year Refresher Institutes coming up in March. we can't wait to see those in our session that are still in the work...and a couple that are going to just come and hang out at the hotel with us. The fellowship should be great...and maybe the classes as well. :)

Some days I can't believe that we've been out for 5 years...other days it feels like 50! Oh well, only about 40 more til retirement.

For Blood and Fire,

By Blogger Dave C, at 7:01 AM  

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Friday, February 17, 2006

Hierarchy of membership

Ian's blog linked here. It is a discussion on what to do about the physically and mentally handicap people. Specifically do we make them soldiers?

Here is my issue:

First, I don't like official church membership ever. It leads to problems in every church, congregational churches use it to determine who can vote and what not, other churches use it to determine who can take communion. The Army uses it to say whether they are "one of us." Really who cares. Then it gets worse, officer, soldier, adherent, attender. (the latter don't even count on our stats other then as a seat warmer). This creates classes of membership. We parade soldiers, we have rules about what a soldier can do and what a non-soldier can't do. So here is what I posted:

I'm an officer out west working with those in recovery. I have a standard for soldiership, know what you are getting into. I then say why do you want to be a soldier? I became one only because I was going to go to training. It means little (nothing?) to me. I just don't care. I am more concerned about whether they are active in their relationship with God and their recovery. Really that's it. So we are asking the wrong question. The question is who cares. Or better yet: Why do we have this hierarchy of membership? Really, why? I still have to fight that issue after a year. Get rid of the hierarchy of membership and there is no issue.

So would I get rid of soldiership? Probably not (saying yes would get me a stern talking to anyway) I simply don't press it. I guess my time at non-traditional corps taught me a very important lesson: most people (non-army) are really confused by all out stuff. Not only that, they (myself at one point/still) feel very out of place in the larger Army, commissioning, welcomes, congress, ect. Another thought: I put on a uniform when I took a corps assistant (pastoral) role, not before. No I repeat No other church has completely different clothes for members and non members. Clergy, deacons, elders, other leaders might have something that signifies their leadership position but just because a person is a member? What the?

Let me finish with this: There are no second class citizens in the Kingdom of God.


Then why do we have and even encourage second and third class citizens in our churches?


Hey, thanks for the breath of fresh air!

By Blogger wcs53, at 7:10 PM  

I agree with you on the hierarchy thing. I have been arguing for 8 ½ years (the length of my officership) that the uniform should be optional (for officers) and that ranks should be eliminated from our terminology and structure. The bible is clear that we are ALL priests. Even though God clearly outlines a system of leadership and order, we are all on a level playing field.

Thanks for the blog.


By Blogger Bret, at 7:32 PM  

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Thursday, February 16, 2006

A good piece of theology

My wife found this at Recover Man


Author Unknown

One night I had a wondrous dream,
One set of footprints there were seen,
The footprints of my precious Lord,
But mine were not along the shore.
But then some stranger prints appeared,
And I asked the Lord, "What have we here?"
Those prints are large and round and neat,
"But Lord, they are too big for feet."
"My child," He said in somber tones,
"For miles I carried you alone.
I challenged you to walk in faith,
But you refused and made me wait."
"You disobeyed, you would not grow,
The walk of faith, you would not know,
So I got tired, I got fed up,
And there I dropped you on your butt."
"Because in life, there comes a time,
When one must fight, and one must climb,
When one must rise and take a stand,
Or leave their butt prints in the sand."

I think this summs up my theology. And its much better then footprints.


funny! I used it a few months back in a sermon!!

By Blogger Gordon, at 1:11 AM  

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Real live Preacher

I have just added a link to Real Live Preacher. I find him real and refreshing.


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Wednesday, February 15, 2006

News and my life as Father Francis J. Mulcahy

Well, our DC is becoming chief secretary (a promotion) in US Central. We will be sad to see them go, truly great people and leaders.

I have my first long walk in two weeks last night because I've been sick. I did some thinking and praying and what can up was that I feel what what Father Francis J. Mulcahy (the great priest from MASH) described in a couple episodes.

Without proper training
Just there
Office door open and no one coming by

I guess I feel like a person who just wonders why. I mean the guys in the program all seem to relate to me well, they say "hi thanks for the Super Bowl" They come to church and bible study but does any of it matter? I mean I think to my self what if I was not here would the clients miss me?

I don't think so. The program would continue little thought given. I guess I just wonder does it really matter.

The answer came yes it does. It really does. Maybe some will not use because what I have said or my relationship with them. Maybe.

I am not a good chaplain though. I'm not. I'm not good at getting people to talk about spiritual stuff. I respond to them when they open up. I think many are better at it then I am. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know. My chaplaincy skills have increased but I realize others are better at it. I'm beginning to realize that at least right now I'm a better administrator. I'm good at it. Sometimes I just wish I was a better chaplain.


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Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Valentines day

It seems to me as I did my shopping and drove through the flower district this morning (that was dumb) that this is truly a commercial holiday. I mean it exists as a way for people to sell stuff. This morning on channel 11 they did a piece on cheaters getting caught on this day more then any other day. I just don't know. It does not make sense to me. Is our love and ability to express it so lame that it takes a special holiday for men to get up and do something special for our loved ones? Yes.

Lets face it, I went out got her a card a decorated it and posted it in the conference room (so everyone else would be jealous and embarrass her) then we will go to diner. So I guess I rank myself as pathetic. Why don't I do crazy things like that any more? I guess I am pathetic. I must try to be less pathetic.

Anyway, here is to the most commercialized holiday of all.


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Friday, February 10, 2006


Well I've been under the weather all week with a upper respiratory infection/virus. My wife says I'm a baby when I get sick maybe I am.

I have been following a few discussions the one that interests me the most is over on Tim's Blog. It has become a question of tolerance and truth. What do you tolerate, what do we not. I think underlying this is a question of Salvation. So, the questioning goes, who or what do we tolerate? At what point should our religious/civil toleration (these are two radically different questions that usually are treated as one) end? Should we tolerate those who we know are wrong? Do we tolerate them and not speak up if we know they are going to hell? These are the types of questions that get answered (rarely asked just answered) in debates on inclusivism, ecumenical movements, and religious pluralism. I think we all started with putting our questions on paper something would happen. We would realize what we are asking. Often we just assume that everyone is asking the same questions. And maybe we are. Even if we phrase it as What would God tolerate? I mean look none of us knows the answer to that question. So why do we answer it? Do I believe that people must know God to enter heaven, yes. Is that God the triune one, yes. But, can get on my high horse (pulpit, blog, email, or street corner) and tell everyone turn or burn? NO! For two reasons: 1) I am not God! 2) I have never seen God, and God has never told me who he chooses to have mercy on. The fact is there are probably more people in heaven (whatever concept of heaven you have, mine: life with God) then any person in history would have put there. So, do I preach tolerance, yes, even hard tolerance like TBN, even though I tell people I never watch it, and I believe they are wrong 95% of the time. I never claim special knowledge about it, it is my opinion. The sooner we realize that religion is more a matter of faith and opinion then scientific fact the better we all be. When we realize that I'm right/Your wrong may work in math class it does not work in religion. Furthermore, that usually (Personally I think always) leads to spiritual abuse if not violence. Besides, didn't someone once say something like "Love your enemies?"

So lets try, just try toleration and love for a millennia and see how that works.


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Monday, February 06, 2006


Well I guess I must eat some crow. It was a great defensive gave highlighted by two great plays on the Steelers side and two horrid penalty calls on Seattle. It is sad when bad officiating makes part of the difference in a big game. The worst was the mythical holding call. Seattle would would have been 1 and goal from the 2 yard line. But that said Jackson should have gotten his feet in, Shawn should have run better, and well it is what it is. Only 1 out of 32 wins it all. All I have to say is that who in the NFC will compare with a defense that will have 1 more year together? We do need a corner opposite Trufont that doesn't get hurt every other play. Anyway thanks for the ride! Lets ride again next year.

Next week is the pro bowl then no NFL until September.


seahwaks got jobbed. there is no way ben crossed the plain with that ball, and that pass interference call was balogna. sorry man, i was rooting for them.

By Blogger Ian, at 1:38 PM  

yeah, it wasn't exactly a SUPER game at all. neither team had anything in the first half and the second, as you said, only had a couple big plays. and you're right...the refs were not the All Star team that should have been there.

and on comes baseball season! :o) GO RED SOX!!

In His Grip,

By Blogger Dave C, at 1:48 PM  

The Pitts used the same game plan against the Broncos: a horrible call taking away a touchdown, and another horrible call giving the Pitts a touchdown they didn't earn. But as you say, "it is what it is". Certainly the 'Hawks defense handled the situation a lot better than ours did when the officials kept handing the ball back to the Pitts offense.

By Blogger glorybound9, at 3:21 AM  

Apparently, others thought the officiating lacked polish too:


I like Roethlisberger, by the way. He got on some run in the playoffs. He is the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl. But maybe we can hold off now on making him the next Montana or Aikman or Brady. The Steelers didn't win because of him Sunday, they won despite him. Hasselbeck, even with the late pick he threw, outplayed Roethlisberger all day.

The one touchdown he got, the refs gave it to him. And the head ref, Bill Leavy, didn't have the stomach to overturn it. If that surprised you, you didn't watch the season.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/258540_hrail07.html (J.A. Adande, Los Angeles Times on ESPN's "Around the Horn"):

I've never seen a holding call where a guy only uses one hand. I don't even know if it's possible to hold a defender with one hand. They did call that. They were blowing things all night.


Roethlisberger was awful except for one improvised 37-yard throw to Hines Ward and a couple of productive runs. Hasselbeck was ineffective and sabotaged by his receivers dropping passes. And it wasn't a fine night for the zebras, either. They made four questionable calls - all against Seattle.

And after further review, we need an explanation for how Hasselbeck was called for a low block when he was making the tackle on Ike Taylor after he threw the destructive interception that ended Seattle's comeback attempt in the fourth quarter. He wasn't blocking Taylor. He was tackling Taylor. That cost the Seahawks 15 precious yards.


The NFL ought to be embarrassed about some of the mistakes in Super Bowl XL. They weren't just mistakes made in the flow of the game. They were huge, game-changing mistakes.

Bad calls probably cost the Seahawks two touchdowns. Another gave the Steelers one.

Their first big mistake came late in the first quarter when Seattle quarterback Matt Hasselbeck threw a 16-yard touchdown to Darrell Jackson.

The score was erased when Jackson was called for offensive pass interference against safety Chris Hope. Replays seem to show there was some light contact but nothing significant. The Seahawks were forced to settle for a field goal. Why can't the NFL have an official upstairs reviewing a call as bad as that one?

There was another terrible call when Hasselbeck's 18-yard completion was called back by a phantom holding penalty. The call was ridiculous. Seattle tackle Sean Locklear was locked up with a Pittsburgh defender. There was no holding.

In the end, the NFL ought to feel at least as bad as the Seahawks.

By Blogger glorybound9, at 8:25 AM  

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Saturday, February 04, 2006

My next post

My next post will discuss the but kicking that Lofa, Shaun, Leroy, Matt, Ol, DL, and Mike put on the Stealers. Nobody thinks we will, the nation is against us, they think its a fluke. Well like Stevens said "we will win"

So to all you Stealers apologists and fans of the VW Bus get ready for more sadness.


As a Pats fan I really don't care who wins, but I have to cheer for someone...and since I was stationed near Pittsburgh for awhile, it'll be them!

Anyway, have you read the newest Officer magazine yet? My wife Trista wrote an article. Let me know what you think.

In His Grip,

By Blogger Dave C, at 8:10 PM  

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Wednesday, February 01, 2006


I guess I'm in kind of a funk. Other then THE GAME my mind has not been on much for long. I'm still getting everything done and even doing some counseling but I feel down. I'm not sure why. I just feel tired and run down. I got my approval for the social service conference in Toronto in March so I will be there. There is also trips to northern cali and officer councils coming up. Maybe that will help. Still don't know anything about what will happen to us in July, maybe that is part of it. I just feel like I need a few days off. That won't happen for a while. The trip to Redwood Glen should be good. Just me in my car for 7 hours or so will do me wonders. I just wish I knew why I feel like curling up and sleeping for a few days.

Gordon has been having a good conversation on Natural Church development I have not looked at it ever but I just have one question: why is the Army so concerned with being a church? I mean we don't do it well (just look at our stats), its not the major funding source, and well to be honest personally its not a very attractive goal. So there you go. I've been in churches my whole life, many different denoms I just wonder why church? I mean fellowship is great but why North American church? I just don't have an answer. Any ideas?


I've seen a few corps try the NCD material over here in the East...didn't really work well.

You're right about the funding sources. There are only 3 or 4 corps in this territory that are self-supportive in regards to the "church" end of things...covering the officer's salary and related expenses. 3 or 4 in a territory with over 300 corps. We are a denomination, but we really aren't a church.

By Blogger Dave C, at 7:16 PM  

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